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Colt 1860 Army Military issue?

Discussion in 'Civil War Weapons and Ammunition' started by GK VanSant, Nov 20, 2017.

  1. GK VanSant

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    Hey everyone ~ Recently purchased this Colt 1860 Army. Numbers matching except for the barrel lug. I have been trying to research if you can determine if it was military issued by the number of inspector marks? Here are the best pix I could take and greatly appreciate ANY HELP..thanks! 20171114_231342.jpg 28352496_1.jpg
     

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  3. JPChurch

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    I'm sure it was military issued, most of the Colt Army's were. Colt also made other models for civilian use
     
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    I can't answer to that question, but that is a mighty fine Colt. I love the old ones. Thanks for posting this @GK VanSant. A fine pistol for a better age.
     
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    Thanks! Did the pistols made for civilian purchase have that many inspection marks, or did they even have any? I don't really know much about the civilian/military info, but would be thrilled if it could be confirmed as being military issue. I just ordered a book on the 1860 by Charley Pate. I guess he's a well known expert. Won't be released until January though. Thanks again ~
     
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    Thanks ~
     
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    Per Colt's online database, serial number indicates manufacture in 1862. Pretty safe wager that 99%+ of everything leaving Colt's doors that year got sucked into the war, one way or t'other (even if it is a 3 screw model).

    Nice acquisition. Gonna spend the bucks for a Colt letter?
     
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    A beautiful example I wish was in my collection - congratulations and welcome to the forums!
     
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    Units got crates of revolvers purchased by the government and inspected by same.

    Something to think about, with regards to a letter - officers (and some other ranks) often privately purchased firearms. Without a name engraved on it, chances of slim of making a personal connection but knowing where Colt sent that particular piece would be good to know - and might instigate more questions to ask about it.
     
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    Thank you! I was going to get the Colt letter but the one I got for my 1885 Lightning cost $100, and for percussion it's $300! I only paid $775 for the pistol ~ I'll have to start buying more lottery tickets!
     
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    Definitely...thanks so much ~ Jerry
     
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    As to Colt revolvers to civilians: In 1855 Frederick Olmsted, the fellow who designed Central Park in NYC, made a horseback tour of Texas and wrote a book about his travels. He called Texas "A Different Country Entirely," and commented that every man carried a pistol and 99% of them were Colt revolvers. As a sidebar, for a long-arm, Olmsted bought a new Sharps carbine for $40, but preferred his Colt pistol.
     
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    VERY NICE COLT, 99% sure it military issue. If so there should be an inspector cartouche on the grips.
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    Grips are worn and I can't make out any cartouche. Wish I could! I was hoping I might be able to find info by the inspector marks on the parts. I did find some info on an article by Charles Pate, and he mentions 2 gov't inspectors from that time. One's last name started with "H" and one with "K". There are a few of them on the pistol...
     
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    Doesn't look like there is a cartouche on the grips, but the 66,000 serial range does put it in 1862, and pretty much everything was going to the military, especially early war. I have no doubt it was military.
     
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    THANK YOU!!
     
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